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VP debate live updates: Vance thrived on stage while Walz struggled to find his footing

Vice presidential nominees JD Vance and Tim Walz keep the tone relatively civil on CBS debate stage in New York, even when discussing hot-button issues like abortion, immigration and gun control

Ariana Baio,Oliver O'Connell,Joe Sommerlad
Wednesday 02 October 2024 02:26
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JD Vance has his mic cut as VP candidates spar over immigration

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Ohio Senator JD Vance appeared more confident, polished and prepared than his Democratic rival, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, during their first and probably final vice presidential debate in New York City.

In a refreshingly calm contest, Vance spread falsehoods about illegal immigration and refused to admit that his running mate, Donald Trump, lost the 2020 election, yet largely managed to outperform Walz.

The Republican delivered a noticeably softer performance than usual and rarely wavered in his responses – even when confronted over his past comments about Trump and his recent false claim about immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, eating residents’ pets.

Walz meanwhile struggled to find his footing, appearing nervous and unsure in some of his answers, but got more comfortable as the 90-minute showdown progressed and did well on abortion and January 6, although ultimately failed to outshine Vance.

Democrats had privately voiced concerns that Walz could underperform because of his tendency to get heated when defending his record in office. However, he did not live up to that expectation.

The most heated moment of the night came when moderators were forced to cut the candidates’ microphones as they sparred over immigration.

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Van Jones says JD Vance ‘lied’ the entire debate

CNN host and legal analyst Van Jones said JD Vance “lied the entire night”.

Jones said Vance repeated falsehoods about American energy production, Trump’s past healthcare policy, the peaceful transfer of power in 2021 and supporting a national abortion ban.

“I think Americans need to be very, very careful this is a very, very deceitful guy,” Jones said on CNN.

Ariana Baio2 October 2024 05:14
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The scene from the DC Young Republicans watch party

Guests were losing interest in the wonky debate by the second half and a fight nearly broke out after one man told another guest that his views were “repulsive” and stormed out threatening to kick his ass.

John Bowden2 October 2024 05:10
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Vance forced to confront his previous criticism of Trump on debate stage – and blames the media

Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance has blamed the media for his savage past criticisms of the former president.

Speaking in a televised debate against his Democratic opposite number Tim Walz, the Ohio senator claimed that he was misled by “dishonest fabrications” when he compared Trump to Hitler and said he had “thoroughly failed to deliver his economic populism”.

“I’ve always been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump,” Vance said on Tuesday night. “I was wrong first of all because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record.

Io Dodds reports:

Vance blames media for his brutal past criticism of Trump during debate with Tim Walz

The Ohio senator claimed he’d been misled by ‘dishonest’ news stories when he compared Trump to heroin and Hitler

Ariana Baio2 October 2024 05:00
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Who won the vice presidential debate?

Despite a civilized and at times even convivial vice presidential debate, Democratic nominee Tim Walz at times appeared nervous and unprepared, while his rival JD Vance worked to downplay his image of an uncompassionate weirdo.

Ultimately, the Ohio Senator’s confidence, command of party lines and smooth delivery made a largely positive impression on Tuesday night, in contrast to that caused by several campaign controversies in recent weeks.

Mike Bedigan reports:

Who won the vice presidential debate? Walz ‘fumbled bigly’ in spar with Vance

Ultimately, the Ohio Senator’s confidence, command of party lines and smooth delivery made a largely positive impression on Tuesday night

Mike Bedigan2 October 2024 04:53
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A review on Walz’s performance

By his own admission, Vance says he likes to talk a lot. When I watched his debate performances from when he ran for Congress and Governor, Walz can rattle off tons of facts.

The downside to that is that sometimes he isn’t quick on his feet. This was how he at times struggled to respond to questions about his response to violent demonstrations after George Floyd’s killing. In the same way, he slipped when he did not directly address the timeline when of when he went to Hong Kong.

It also meant he tried to pack in his rehearsed lines about abortion rather than responding to accusations about Minnesota’s abortion law.

Eric Garcia 2 October 2024 04:48
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Who is Usha Vance? JD’s wife is evolving alongside him on the political stage

When JD Vance began law school at Yale, the Rust Belt native encountered total culture shock — but also met his wife, the whipsmart daughter of Indian immigrants who helped him navigate the Ivy League, healthy relationships and his run for Vice President alongside Donald Trump. Sheila Flynn chronicles their romance

Who is Usha Vance? The wife and family of Trump’s VP pick JD Vance

When JD Vance began law school at Yale, the Rust Belt native encountered total culture shock — but also met his wife, the whipsmart daughter of Indian immigrants who helped him navigate the Ivy League, healthy relationships and his run for Vice President alongside Donald Trump. Sheila Flynn chronicles their romance

Ariana Baio2 October 2024 04:30
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Both JD Vances—the Hillbilly and the running mate—came out in full force tonight

Vance did what he needed to do.

For the longest time, one of his biggest downsides is that he has come off as too abrasive or mean-spirited. Here, we saw the Vance that made Hillbilly Elegy a bestseller.

He talked about the woman who raised him—his mamaw—and the fact they were Democrats. He mentioned his three children where in the past he has said he told his kid to “shut up” about talking about Pokémon. Vance mostly succeeded when talking about himself. But he fell short when he tried to skate past his previous comments about Springfield, Ohio or when he talked about how he changed his mind.

Toward the end, we started to see the hard right warrior Vance we have seen since he ran for Senate. He talked about big tech censorship and said it was a bigger issue than the 2020 election. That might be enough to hurt him

Eric Garcia 2 October 2024 04:21
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Watch: JD Vance refuses to say that Trump lost the 2020 election

JD Vance refuses to say that Trump lost the 2020 election
Ariana Baio2 October 2024 04:10
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Walz and Vance shake hands to end the night

JD Vance and Tim Walz gave each other a cordial handshake to end the evening
JD Vance and Tim Walz gave each other a cordial handshake to end the evening (AFP via Getty Images)
Ariana Baio2 October 2024 04:05
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Vance appeared more confident during debate

Both candidates maintained a more even-toned attitude than expected going into the debate, but ultimately Vance seemed more confident in his answers.

At the start of the debate, Walz’s nerves were palpable as he tried to deliver an answer on Israel. His confidence got better throughout the debate and he delivered more punching answers toward the end.

But Vance ultimately seemed more unbothered and well-prepared for the vice presidential debate.

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance
Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance (REUTERS)
Ariana Baio2 October 2024 03:56

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