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James Comey interview: Trump 'morally unfit' to be president as a man who treats women 'like pieces of meat,' says former FBI chief

President Trump denies collusion with Russia and denies allegations of obstructing justice

Chris Stevenson
New York
Sunday 15 April 2018 23:19 EDT
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Former FBI director James Comey has said President Donald Trump, is "morally unfit" for office as part of a publicity tour for his highly-anticipated new book A Higher Loyalty.

Mr Trump fired Mr Comey in May 2017, as Mr Comey was leading an investigation into Russian meddling in the presidential election of 2016, which has now expanded to include investigations into possible collusion between Trump campaign officials and Russia. Mr Trump has repeatedly hit out at Mr Comey, in a series of tweets since experts of the book started to appear on Thursday, the president has called him a "slimeball" and a "liar".

In his first interview since being fired, Mr Comey painted a scything picture of the president.

“Our president must embody respect, and adhere to the values that are at the core of this country. The most important being truth. This president is not able to do that. He is morally unfit to be president,” he said.

See the liveblog below to follow the interview as it happened, please give a few seconds for it to load.

The wide-ranging television interview with ABC lasted for five hours, with a condensed one hour version being broadcast on Sunday night. Questions centred around the new book, which challenges the president’s character in labelling him a mafia don and raises doubts about his commitment to serving America. In the transcript of the interview Mr Comey said Mr Trump will “stain” everyone around him.

Mr Comey is clearly trying to set up a dichotomy between himself and the president, but there were few absolutely new revelations in the interview. Still that does not diminish the powerful spectacle of the former FBI director - who was involved in a number of major events in Mr Trump’s run for, and then first year in, the White House - denigrating the sitting president.

Having started as the one in charge of the FBI investigation into Russian election meddling, which included investigating any possible collusion between Trump campaign personnel and Moscow, Mr Comey had plenty to say on that subject.

Mr Comey said he thinks it is “possible” that President Donald Trump might be compromised by the Russians. He said it struck him as unlikely but he could not say it with “high confidence” like he could with other presidents he has worked.

“It is stunning, and I wish I wasn’t saying it, but it’s the truth,” Mr Comey said.

He also described the “weird” Trump Tower meeting in which after the election he briefed the president-elect on the contents of an unverified intelligence document compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele, including allegations that Mr Trump had been in a Moscow hotel room in 2013 with urinating Russian prostitutes.

“I did not go into the business about people peeing on each other” in his briefing with Trump, Comey said. “I just wanted to get it done and get out of there.”

Mr Trump has denied all allegations around the dossier.

As Mr Comey also described the two famous episodes of being alone with Mr Trump, one a dinner where Mr Comey said that Trump “I expect loyalty, I need loyalty.” and the other in the Oval Office when Mr Trump asked him “I hope you can let it go”, which Mr Comey took as a “direction” to drop an FBI investigation into Mr Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

James Comey 'compares Donald Trump to mob boss' in ABC News exclusive interview promo

Mr Trump and the White House have denied wither conversation taking place, while Mr Flynn later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

Asked whether he believed Mr Trump had committed obstruction of justice, Mr Comey said “it’s possible” and there was “ certainly some evidence” that it may have happened. Mr Trump has denied collusion with Russia and allegations of obstruction of justice.

Mr Comey has come under attack from Mr Trump in recent days in a number of tweets that have labelled him “slippery” and a “slimeball”. It is something he has in common with the man that took over the FBI Russia investigation, Special Counsel Robert Mueller, with Mr Trump having labelled that investigation a “witch hunt”.

The former FBI director said that if Mr Trump were to fire Mr Mueller, both Democrats and Republicans would have to recognise as Mr Trump’s “most serious attack yet on the rule of law.”

While there were a couple of lighter moments, including Mr Comey saying that when meeting Mr Trump for the first time he realised he had “impressively coifed hair” that “looks to be all his”.

“I stared at it pretty closely”, Mr Comey said, “and my reaction was, 'It must take a heck of a lot of time in the morning, but it's impressively coifed.’”

Mr Comey said that his role in the 2016 election, in re-opening and than closing an FBI investigation into the emails of Mr Trump’s rival candidate Hillary Clinton close to polling day “sucked”. Ms Clinton and some Democrats blame him for her loss, but Mr Comey said it was a “no-win” situation and that he was a “flawed human” trying to make decisions based on “higher values”.

Agencies contributed to this report

Reaction to the interview is starting to come in.

Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel has issued a statement:

“James Comey’s publicity tour reaffirms that his true higher loyalty is to himself. The only thing worse than Comey’s history of misconduct is his willingness to say anything to sell books. He has no credibility and President Trump was right to follow through on the bipartisan calls for him to be fired.”

That is not surprising from the RNC, considering they launched a website called "Lyin' Comey" to try and counter the narrative of Mr Comey's new book

Steve Anderson16 April 2018 04:28

One more exchange worth flagging:

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I want to get back to the story — but one more question. I think it's to an important point that— when you're talking about being an ethical leader, at what point do people serve in order to protect the institution, to protect the country, and at what point does it cross over into enabling bad behavior?

JAMES COMEY: That is the question that people have to ask themselves. And— and there's no easy way to define it in the abstract, that you— the challenge of this president is that he will stain everyone around him. And the question is, how much stain is too much stain and how much stain eventually makes you unable to accomplish your goal of protecting the country and serving the country? So I don't know. And it— it— it would be hard for anybody to answer that. But everyone's gotta answer that individually.

Steve Anderson16 April 2018 04:34

With an unusually long editorial in their Monday edition, The New York Times is making a forceful statement: “The president is not above the law.”

The 1,366-word article warns that President Donald Trump “may act to cripple or shut down an investigation by the nation's top law-enforcement agencies into his campaign and administration.” It says that “lawmakers need to be preparing now for that possibility because if and when it comes to pass, they will suddenly find themselves on the edge of an abyss, with the Constitution in their hands.”

It references concerns Trump could fire special counsel Robert Mueller or Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

“More Republicans need to make it clear that they won't tolerate any action against either man,” the editorial says.

Steve Anderson16 April 2018 04:49

Here is our full report on the interview:

Steve Anderson16 April 2018 06:14

And with that we are ending out coverage, thanks for reading.

Steve Anderson16 April 2018 06:16

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