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Charlie Hebdo attack: War of ideas hots up as French police quiz eight-year-old

Boy claims: “I am not Charlie. I am with the terrorists”

John Lichfield
Thursday 29 January 2015 15:34 EST
France's education minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said the boy’s school had reacted “entirely correctly”
France's education minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said the boy’s school had reacted “entirely correctly” (Getty Images)

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France is divided over the case of an eight-year-old boy who was questioned by police for saying: “I am not Charlie. I am with the terrorists.” A moderate Islamic association said that the interrogation of Ahmed and his father was proof of a “collective hysteria” since 17 people died in terrorist attacks in Paris three weeks ago.

The education minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said the boy’s school had reacted “entirely correctly” by drawing his behaviour to the attention of education authorities and the police. She said that there was no question of legal action against the child but that a complaint had been made against his father for an allegedly “brutal” attitude towards school staff.

Arguments for and against the questioning of Ahmed became the hottest subject on French social media for most of the day. The boy and his father were ordered to go to a police station in Nice on Wednesday. On 8 January, the day after the attack on Charlie Hebdo, Ahmed refused to take part in a nationwide two-minute silence.

He was reported to have said in class and then again in the playground: “I am not Charlie. I am with the terrorists. The Muslims were quite right. The journalists deserved to die.” The child was questioned for 30 minutes by police. He was then allowed to play with toys while his father answered police questions.

Under questioning, Ahmed said that he did not know the meaning of the word “terrorist”. His father condemned what the boy was reported to have said but made a formal complaint about the decision to interrogate his son. “It’s crazy. This was out of all proportion,” said the family’s lawyer, Sefen Guez Guez. “They took seriously the words of an eight-year-old child, who doesn’t understand what he is saying.”

People hold up placards reading 'I am Charlie' during a gathering in Nice
People hold up placards reading 'I am Charlie' during a gathering in Nice (Getty Images)

It was Mr Guez Guez who first revealed the questioning of the boy on Wednesday in a tweet. The lawyer is close to the pressure group Collective against Islamophobia in France. In his tweets, he claimed there had been a formal accusation against Ahmed of “apology for terrorism”. Police and education officials insisted yesterday the interrogation had been informal.

They said that there had been problems in the past with the boy’s behaviour in school and with the attitude of his father. Mr Guez Guez has formally accused the headmaster of the school of acting violently towards Ahmed after his remarks – something authorities deny.

In the wake of this month’s jihadist mayhem, the government has created a new website – www.stop-djihadisme.gouv.fr – to counter Islamist propaganda on the internet.

A two-minute video placed on the site warns that joining Isis or other jihadist groups is not a passport to paradise but a “ticket to hell”. It shows scenes of dead and injured children, crucifixions and the dumping of dead bodies in pits.


The EU, meanwhile, called for more help from internet companies to fight online terrorist propaganda. The Home Affairs Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos told reporters that the EU needs to deepen co-operation with the internet industry “and to strengthen the commitment of social media platforms in order to reduce illegal content online”. “We are now taking this co-operation further by deepening dialogue ... in order to develop concrete, workable solutions,” he said.

But policing the vast amount of material posted on social media is a major challenge. Omar Ramadan, head of the Radicalisation Awareness Network, a European group tackling extremism, told the Associated Press removing terror-related content from the internet was not enough. “If you’re only taking down content and not worrying about the people watching content, they will be searching for content elsewhere,” Mr Ramadan said.

In an interview with a Dutch newspaper, the EU counter-terrorism co-ordinator, Gilles de Kerchove, reportedly urged the bloc’s nations to hire PR experts to produce counter-propaganda.

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