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Trump ally Devin Nunes will 'likely' face second ethics investigation over alleged Ukraine meeting

'How many people were doing the president's dirty work here?', asked one Democrat

Rosalind S. Helderman,Colby Itkowitz
Sunday 24 November 2019 13:46 EST
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Devin Nunes, the Republican ranking minority member of the House Intelligence Committee, speaks at the impeachment hearings into Donald Trump
Devin Nunes, the Republican ranking minority member of the House Intelligence Committee, speaks at the impeachment hearings into Donald Trump (EPA)

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A high-ranking House Democrat has said it's “quite likely” representative Devin Nunes will face an ethics investigation over allegations that he met with an ex-Ukrainian official to obtain information about former vice president Joe Biden and his son.

Representative Adam Smith of Washington, the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, appeared on MSNBC where he was asked whether Mr Nunes could face a house inquiry. “Quite likely, without question,” Mr Smith said.

The allegation that Mr Nunes, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, met with a former Ukrainian prosecutor last year to discuss the Bidens came from the attorney for Lev Parnas, one of two Soviet-born associates of Rudy Giuliani who were indicted on charges they broke campaign finance law.

Mr Parnas' attorney, Joseph Bondy, told The Washington Post that Ukraine's former top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, informed Mr Parnas that he had met with Mr Nunes in Vienna in December 2018.

Mr Bondy also said that a top aide to Mr Nunes, Derek Harvey, sometimes joined a group that met frequently in spring 2019 at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, District of Columbia, to discuss the Biden matter among other topics. The group, according to Mr Bondy, was convened by Mr Giuliani, Donald Trump's personal attorney, and included Mr Parnas, his business associate Igor Fruman, as well as journalist John Solomon and the married legal team of Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing.

The information about Mr Nunes' meeting with Mr Shokin and Mr Harvey's meetings with Mr Giuliani were first reported by CNN on Friday.

Mr Nunes declined to comment. He did, however, strongly push back on the story to the conservative outlet Breitbart News and threatened to sue CNN for reporting it. He also threatened to sue the Daily Beast for a story linking him and Mr Parnas.

“These demonstrably false and scandalous stories published by the Daily Beast and CNN are the perfect example of defamation and reckless disregard for the truth,” Mr Nunes said, according to Breitbart. “I look forward to prosecuting these cases, including the media outlets, as well as the sources of their fake stories, to the fullest extent of the law.”

An individual close to Mr Shokin also denied the story.

“This meeting never took place. Viktor Shokin doesn't know and hasn't even heard of this person,” said the individual, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak freely, referring to Mr Nunes.

Mr Giuliani, appearing on Fox News on Saturday, also said he didn't believe that Mr Nunes met with Mr Shokin.

“Devin Nunes says he didn't meet with Shokin. I have no reason to believe that he did,” Mr Giuliani said, adding, “If he did, there would've been nothing wrong with it.”

The allegation about Mr Nunes comes as the house moves swiftly in its impeachment investigation of Mr Trump. The inquiry, triggered by a whistleblower's complaint, focuses on Mr Trump's pressure campaign to get Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky to publicly announce investigations into 2020 presidential rival Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and the debunked conspiracy theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election.

At stake at the time of Mr Trump's 25 July call with Mr Zelensky was nearly $400m (£310m) in congressionally appropriated military aid and a long-sought invitation for a face-to-face meeting of the two leaders in Washington.

“I understand a lot of this is about Joe Biden but the bigger thing is about what President Trump and the Russians and all these people have been doing . . . is a systematic problem that is a threat to the country because of what Russia is doing to democracy,” Mr Smith said in the MSNBC interview.

Representative Jackie Speier, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, tweeted, “If Devin Nunes was using taxpayer money to do 'political errands' in Vienna for his puppeteer, Donald Trump, an ethics investigation should be initiated and he should be required to reimburse the taxpayers.”

And in an interview with NPR on Saturday, representative Joaquin Castro, another member of the committee, said the panel should hear from Mr Parnas.

“I think it would be valuable to hear from him because we want to know just how far this work extended, how many people were doing the president's dirty work here,” Mr Castro said.

Mr Shokin is a key figure in Mr Giuliani's effort to press the Ukrainians to open an investigation into Mr Biden.

He was fired as Ukraine's Prosecutor General in March 2016, after a pressure campaign from Ukraine's western allies, led by Mr Biden. Mr Shokin has publicly accused Mr Biden of engineering that effort to protect his son Hunter, who was serving on the board of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

Mr Bondy's allegation about Mr Nunes and Mr Shokin appears to be part of an aggressive campaign he has mounted in recent days to persuade Democrats in congress to call Mr Parnas to testify. He has been tweeting directly at members of congress, using the hashtag #LetLevSpeak. He has said Mr Parnas would be willing to testify, provided he was given an accommodation to allow him to avoid self-incrimination. That would likely require congress giving him immunity for his testimony.

A spokesman for Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B Schiff declined to comment on whether Mr Parnas would be asked to testify or on the Mr Nunes allegation. House speaker Nancy Pelosi and minority leader Kevin McCarthy did not respond to requests for comment.

If the house launched an ethics investigation into Mr Nunes it would be the second time his ethics were questioned during the Trump era. In 2017, Mr Nunes was accused of giving classified information to the White House about the Intelligence Committee's work on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The House Ethics Committee cleared Mr Nunes of wrongdoing in December 2017, saying he had not disclosed classified information or violated House rules when he publicly discussed foreign surveillance reports.

The new information about Mr Nunes, if true, would suggest that by the time Mr Giuliani spoke to Mr Shokin in January 2019, the former prosecutor had already had a conversation with a key congressional ally of Mr Trump.

Mr Giuliani has cited Mr Shokin's unproven allegations against Mr Biden as the central exhibit of his argument that Mr Biden acted inappropriately in Ukraine. Mr Giuliani first debriefed Mr Shokin on those allegations in a Skype phone call that January that Mr Parnas has said he helped arrange. The interview had to be conducted remotely after Mr Shokin was denied a visa to travel to the United States because of corruption allegations.

US and Ukrainian officials have said the investigation into Mr Burisma and its CEO was actually dormant at the time of Mr Shokin's removal. George Kent, a top State Department official, testified to congress that it was believed at the time that Ukrainian prosecutors in Mr Shokin's office had accepted bribes in exchange for halting an effort to recover assets from the company's CEO and went unpunished - a development that helped shape the international consensus that Mr Shokin tolerated corruption and should be removed.

Former ambassador Marie Yovanovitch testified that the Shokin visa decision was a routine one made by consular officials but that Mr Giuliani attempted to appeal it unsuccessfully to both Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the White House. Mr Parnas has said Mr Giuliani's anger over the Shokin visa helped fuel his desire to see Ms Yovanovitch removed. She was abruptly pulled from her post earlier this year.

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