Question Time: Unvaccinated audience member shut down after lecturing infection expert with ‘nonsense’
Presenter Fiona Bruce previously called for people who have chosen not to get vaccinated to apply for the episode, which was broadcast from London.
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Your support makes all the difference.A Question Time audience member clashed with a world renowned infections expert after the show invited unvaccinated people to take part in the debate.
A philosophy student’s false claims that the Covid vaccine skeptic Dr Robert Malone ‘invented the vaccine’ was branded ‘nonsense’ by Professor Robin Shattock, head of the Mucosal Infection and Immunity at Imperial College London’s Medicine department.
Professor Shattock listened patiently while the unidentified audience member spoke about the Yellow Card system which allows people to voluntarily report vaccine side effects.
The professor explained there was “overwhelming evidence” the vaccine was safe, adding later: “I think the issue here is that it’s not just about personal choice… You’re not just getting vaccinated to ensure your own health, it’s about ensuring everybody else’s health.”
Presenter Fiona Bruce challenged the speaker over whether anything the professor would say would convince him, given his background in researching HIV and Ebola.
“I study philosophy at university, and I learned that an appeal to authority is not the automatic win of an argument,” he replied.
But it was when he added the claims about Dr Malone that the professor intervened, saying that it was ‘nonsense’.
Question Time had asked unvaccinated audience members to challenge a panel of health experts and politicians on Thursday after an appeal launched last month.
The panel ALSO included Conservative MP Crispin Blunt Labour shadow mental health minister Dr Rosena Allin-Khan Victor Adebowale, chair of the NHS Confederation and The Daily Telegraph’s Tim Stanley.
People were given the opportunity to voice scepticism and ask questions about the benefits of getting the jab.
I think the issue here is that it's not just about personal choice... You're not just getting vaccinated to ensure your own health, it's about ensuring everybody else's health
Another audience member questioned whether checks for natural immunity could be used as an alternative to the vaccine.
Asked whether antibody tests should be prioritised higher in the Covid-19 response, Prof Shattock said: “The issue is natural immunity is very variable. You can’t in a mass population basis go around and measure everybody’s antibody levels.”
Other members of the panel criticised ministers for their approach towards mandatory vaccines for NHS workers.
Lord Adebowale, a crossbench peer, accused the Government of causing “incredible pain and anguish” to healthcare professionals by backtracking from the plans without warning.
“The Government has taken a step back. The way it did it has caused incredible pain and anguish,” he said.
He added: “They (NHS staff) find out that the Government’s changed their mind, not through a message from the Secretary of State… but on the media”.
“The way the Government went about it… has really broken the faith of many of those frontline staff in leadership”.
Lord Adebowale added that the majority of unvaccinated NHS staff were black and minority ethnic people who had “very good reasons not to trust leadership”.
He said people had rejected the jab for reasons unrelated to the anti-vaccination movement.
A medical student echoed his comments by saying she had seen many pregnant women in hospital wards who had refused the jab because of health concerns.
Mr Blunt defended the Government’s approach to considering mandatory vaccinations for health workers.
“For my money I think given the evidence that was available to ministers making that decision I think they made the right decision about the care sector. They’re now faced with the same decision about the NHS,” he said.
The BBC previously said it had made the decision to invite unvaccinated people to take part as they represent substantial numbers of the British public.
“We think this is an interesting part of the debate which is worthy of discussion.
“Question Time always strives to discuss each side of every argument,” it said in a statement.
Thursday’s show required all audience members show proof of full vaccination or evidence of a negative lateral flow test, while seating was socially distanced and those in the audience wore a mask when not speaking.
