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More than 600 schools surveyed so far for crumbling concrete, say officials

Officials also confirmed that the department has received 98% of responses to a questionnaire about potential Raac.

Dominic McGrath
Monday 11 September 2023 12:30 EDT
Top officials in the Department for Education were grilled by MPs on Monday about Raac (Victoria Jones/PA)
Top officials in the Department for Education were grilled by MPs on Monday about Raac (Victoria Jones/PA) (PA Wire)

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More than 600 schools have now been surveyed for collapse-risk concrete, senior officials in the Department for Education have said.

Officials also confirmed that the department has received 98% of responses to a questionnaire about potential reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete (Raac) in their buildings.

It comes after ministers set a deadline of last Friday for school leaders and responsible bodies to respond.

The new figures emerged as permanent secretary at Department for Education Susan Acland-Hood and chief operating officer Jane Cunliffe appeared before the Public Accounts Committee (Pac).

The two top officials were grilled by MPs about the ongoing crisis, with Pac chair Dame Meg Hillier telling the civil servants that it was ā€œdisappointingā€ the pair had not come before MPs ready to provide more figures.

The Department for Education officials resisted questions about how many schools were waiting for a survey for Raac, amid questions from Dame Meg about whether the number was in the ā€œtensā€ or ā€œhundredsā€.

Ms Cunliffe said: ā€œIt is very fast-moving, we are doing tens of surveys every day.ā€

She said that eight surveying firms were currently doing both new and return visits to schools.

ā€œAs soon as we hear about a school that suspects it has got Raac, we can get that survey done in weeks. So we are hoping over the next few weeks, to have identified the majority.ā€

Ms Cunliffe told MPs that in two-thirds of all the surveys conducted, Raac had not been found.

The officials could not put a figure on the total number of pupils affected by the crisis, but defended the departmentā€™s handling of the issue and said that there was a ā€œco-ordinatedā€ cross-government approach.

Ms Acland-Hood said: ā€œI donā€™t think I can give you an assurance that there wonā€™t other changes in advice or views about it.

ā€œBut I think the critical thing that we were trying to do was actively stay close to the latest understanding and evidence on it.ā€

Ms Acland-Hood also said that Education Secretary Gillian Keegan had been ā€œgenerousā€ in her gratitude towards officials, after a sweary outburst last week saw the Cabinet minister complain that ā€œeveryone else has sat on their arse and done nothingā€.

She told MPs: ā€œThe Secretary of State has been generous in recognising work done in the department.

ā€œI donā€™t think she did intend to suggest others hadnā€™t been working hard. All I can say is on behalf of the department, I am really grateful.

ā€œI think schools, responsible bodies and teachers up and down the country have worked unbelievably hard in what were very difficult circumstances, at short notice.ā€

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