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Downing Street rejects calls for Acas to help end junior doctor dispute

The British Medical Association had asked the Government to enter into talks facilitated by the conciliation service.

Jane Kirby
Thursday 20 April 2023 08:21 EDT
The British Medical Association asked the Government last week to enter talks with Acas (Jacob King/PA)
The British Medical Association asked the Government last week to enter talks with Acas (Jacob King/PA) (PA Wire)

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Downing Street has again rejected calls for conciliation service Acas to be brought in to broker a deal with junior doctors.

The Academy of Medical Royal Colleges said on Wednesday evening that a third party was needed to bring the Government and the British Medical Association (BMA) together for talks to halt any future strikes.

On Thursday, the Prime Ministerā€™s official spokesman said: ā€œThere are no plans for this.

ā€œIn the first instance, the Health Secretary is ready to speak directly to the BMA, as soon as they pause strike action.

ā€œThat is something we have had in place for all other talks with unions and has been honoured by other unions.

ā€œAs the Health Secretary has said before, we need to move away from the starting position of 35%.ā€

Sir Chris Wormald, permanent secretary at the Department of Health and Social Care, also told MPs on Thursday that third-party mediation was ā€œnot the Governmentā€™s preferred route, that is not something we would be taking upā€.

This Government does not want to sit around the table. It does not want to have any kind of independent arbitration of this because itā€™s worried that it might cost it money

Prof Philip Banfield, BMA

The BMA asked the Government last week to enter talks with Acas to end the dispute over pay.

Acas has said it is ā€œwell prepared and ready to helpā€.

Chairman of the BMA council, Professor Philip Banfield, told BBC Radio 4ā€™s Today programme on Thursday that the union was not ā€œentrenchedā€ in its position and ā€œthere is no number set in stoneā€ when it comes to a 35% rise.

ā€œDo we have any preconditions? No, we donā€™t. This is all coming from the Government side who want to negotiate from a position where they have already decided what the answer is.ā€

Asked about the BMA pay demand for 35%, he said: ā€œPeople are tied up on this 35% figure.

ā€œThere is no number that is set in stone here ā€“ it is the principle of restoring pay that has been lost in its value. In order to discuss what that means and how that is achieved, it needs people to sit around the table.

ā€œThis Government does not want to sit around the table. It does not want to have any kind of independent arbitration of this because itā€™s worried that it might cost it money.ā€

Pressed on whether the BMA would consider suspending strikes and entering talks, Prof Banfield said: ā€œWe havenā€™t actually got a strike announced at this point in time.

ā€œSo here is the time to get in the room and talk. It can be done rapidly.ā€

Also speaking to Today, Professor Dame Helen Stokes-Lampard, chairwoman of theĀ Academy of Medical Royal Colleges, urged both sides to show some flexibility and return to the negotiating table.

She said ā€œpatients are sufferingā€ as the dispute continues.

Come out of your entrenched positions. And please, please start talking. Whatever it takes to start talking, letā€™s do it, because this wonā€™t be resolved without talks

Prof Stokes-Lampard, Academy of Medical Royal Colleges

ā€œBut also (in) this dispute, which nobody wants, the doctors are suffering too,ā€ she added.

ā€œIt needs to be brought to a conclusion, and before you can even start to have negotiations you have to have preliminary talks to set the parameters.

ā€œWhat worries us as an academy ā€“ and we are very much not a trade union, we are the membership body for doctors ā€“ is that there doesnā€™t seem to be any preliminary talks about talks.

ā€œWeā€™re urging some flexibility on both sides ā€“ the junior doctors committee (of the BMA) and of course the Department of Health and Social Care.ā€

She said it ā€œdoesnā€™t matter who or whatā€ the third-party intermediary is, things just needed to move forward.

Prof Stokes-Lampard said she was ā€œgravely concernedā€ for patients who were missing procedures or facing delays and who were ā€œin painā€ or suffering.

She added: ā€œWe have the longest waiting lists in NHS history, for reasons we all understand ā€“ the pandemic compounded by over a decade of underinvestment in our service ā€“ and we have a body of junior doctors who are hurting.

What we do want is for both parties to make some flexibility, make some compromise

Prof Stokes-Lampard, Academy of Medical Royal Colleges

ā€œThey are angry, they are frustrated and they are burnt out, and they are leaving our profession in droves. They need looking after.ā€

She said doctors were balancing the dilemma of the ā€œlong-term harmā€ done to the NHS by chronic underfunding, with the ā€œshort-term harmā€ caused by the strikes.

She added: ā€œWhat we do want is for both parties to make some flexibility, make some compromise.

ā€œCome out of your entrenched positions. And please, please start talking. Whatever it takes to start talking, letā€™s do it, because this wonā€™t be resolved without talks.ā€

The intervention by the academy came as health chiefs fear the prospect of unions including the BMA and RCN co-ordinating strikes or holding them in sequence, which would have a massive impact on the NHS.

Ambulance workers from Unite announced on Wednesday that they would walk out alongside nurses and teachers on May 2.

An RCN nurse strike is already scheduled from April 30 to May 2 following a ballot which rejected a 5% pay deal.

Nearly 200,000 hospital appointments and procedures in England had to be rescheduled when tens of thousands of junior doctors staged a 96-hour strike in a dispute over pay between April 11 and 15.

That was on top of thousands of appointments already cancelled or delayed due to strikes by other unions, including the RCN.

Analysis by the PA news agency shows some 483,085 hospital appointments and procedures in England have been rescheduled due to strike action since December.

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