Stay up to date with notifications from The Independent

Notifications can be managed in browser preferences.

Stranger Things season 5: Duffer brothers ruin fan hope for final episodes

Creators made the admission after flurry of requests from viewers

Jacob Stolworthy
Sunday 17 July 2022 03:33 EDT
Comments
Stranger Things writers explain how they decided who would die in season four

Your support helps us to tell the story

From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent is on the ground when the story is developing. Whether it's investigating the financials of Elon Musk's pro-Trump PAC or producing our latest documentary, 'The A Word', which shines a light on the American women fighting for reproductive rights, we know how important it is to parse out the facts from the messaging.

At such a critical moment in US history, we need reporters on the ground. Your donation allows us to keep sending journalists to speak to both sides of the story.

The Independent is trusted by Americans across the entire political spectrum. And unlike many other quality news outlets, we choose not to lock Americans out of our reporting and analysis with paywalls. We believe quality journalism should be available to everyone, paid for by those who can afford it.

Your support makes all the difference.

The Stranger Things writers have explained how they decided who would die in season four.

Season four recently concluded with a second volume of episodes, which were released on Friday (1 July).

Viewers have been watching the new instalments in their millions, with the show continuing its record-breaking run for Netflix.

The episodes didn’t come without some heartbreak, though– and creators Matt and Ross Duffer are now breaking down the reasoning for killing off who they did, and dashing fan hope in the process.

*Spoilers follow – you have been warned*

The final episode saw the death of Eddie Munson, who was introduced in season four, episode one.

Eddie, played by Joseph Quinn, sacrificed himself to save Hawkins – but the brutal irony of his sacrifice was that the residents of Hawkins believed him to be a murderer, and made his life a nightmare in the run-up to his death.

Since the finale aired, fans have been requesting that Eddie make a grand return in season five. However, in a new interview on the Happy Sad Confused podcast, the Duffer brothers shot this speculation down.

In fact, they said they always planned to kill Eddie off when they created his character.

The death scene of Eddie Munson (Joseph Quinn) in ‘Stranger Things’
The death scene of Eddie Munson (Joseph Quinn) in ‘Stranger Things’ (Netflix)

“We sort of saw Eddie as a bit of a doomed character,” Matt Duffer admitted, while sharing a miserable alternate fate for the character should he have made it to season five.

“In this case, Eddie was really hurtling to his doom all season.”

He added: “Of course, if you’re killing someone that no one cares about, it has no impact, so the goal was to make Eddie a really loveable charcater, have the audience fall in love with him. But to see the extent that he did, it was like, ‘Oh boy, this is going to get a reaction.’

Ross Duffer continued: “He was always going to be a tragic character. There was no other arc for him. He would have wound up in jail – this fantasy that he would have be in Milwaukee graduating sadly was never an outcome for him.”

Elsewhere, in season four’s penultimate episode, Matthew Modine’s returning character Dr Martin Brenner is killed off.

Matt Duffer explained: “Why we really wanted to bring him back [is that] we felt that Eleven had never really come to terms with her relationship with him. Especially in episode eight, her and Brenner go at it and she says everything that’s on her mind.

Matthew Modine’s Dr Martin Brenner is killed off in ‘Stranger Things’ season four
Matthew Modine’s Dr Martin Brenner is killed off in ‘Stranger Things’ season four (Netflix)

“We also wanted to show Brenner isn’t this black and white villain – we wanted to give him an opportunity to at least try to tell Eleven his justifications and ultimately she doesn’t accept them.”

While the death scenes left viewers in shock, it seems the cast members have differing opinions. Both Millie Bobby Brown and Noah Schnapp, who play Eleven and Will, recently called out the show for not killing off any original characters – comments that the Duffer brothers have since responded to.

The show’s creators also shared one big way they plan to make the final season very different from the fourth.

Meanwhile, Metallica, whose song is played by Eddie in the season four finale, have issued a stern message to their dedicated listeners after they called people that discovered their music via the series “fake fans”.

Stranger Things is available to stream on Netflix now. The final season is expected to be released in 2024.

Find The Independent’s review of season four here, and everything we know about the fifth and final season here.

Join our commenting forum

Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies

Comments

Thank you for registering

Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in