Stay up to date with notifications from The Independent

Notifications can be managed in browser preferences.

Helen Mirren has a change of heart about infamous Michael Parkinson interview

Mirren and Parkinson’s ‘sexist’ exchange remains one of the most memorable moments of the BBC chat show

Nicole Vassell
Wednesday 04 October 2023 02:51 EDT
Comments
Sir Michael Parkinson asks Dame Helen Mirren about her 'physical attributes' during 1975 interview

Your support helps us to tell the story

From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent is on the ground when the story is developing. Whether it's investigating the financials of Elon Musk's pro-Trump PAC or producing our latest documentary, 'The A Word', which shines a light on the American women fighting for reproductive rights, we know how important it is to parse out the facts from the messaging.

At such a critical moment in US history, we need reporters on the ground. Your donation allows us to keep sending journalists to speak to both sides of the story.

The Independent is trusted by Americans across the entire political spectrum. And unlike many other quality news outlets, we choose not to lock Americans out of our reporting and analysis with paywalls. We believe quality journalism should be available to everyone, paid for by those who can afford it.

Your support makes all the difference.

Helen Mirren has shared a change of heart regarding her infamous interview with Michael Parkinson, which has been widely deemed “sexist” by viewers.

The stage and screen star appeared on the late broadcaster’s BBC chat show in 1975, during which they had a terse exchange when Parkinson asked whether her physical attributes had “hindered” her in her career.

“I can’t think that can necessarily be true,” replied Mirren. “I mean, what a crummy performance if people are obsessed with the size of your bosom or anything else.

“I would hope that the performance, and the play, and the living relationship between all the people on stage and all the people in the audience will overcome such boring questions.”

The interview became an infamous interaction of their careers, and both had shared their takes on the conversation in the decades that followed.

In a recent interview with Radio Times, the Golda star expressed something of a u-turn in her feelings toward the conversation.

“I didn’t feel sorry for Parky, but then in a way I did because in lots of ways he was right,” she said, according to Metro. “My physicality did get in the way of me being taken seriously as a classical actress.”

Mirren also acknowledged that the culture had changed over the years, adding: “Yes, yes [times] really do [change]. And fast. And we can only kick down the patriarchy one brick at a time.”

Helen Mirren speaking to Michael Parkinson on his talk-show in 1975
Helen Mirren speaking to Michael Parkinson on his talk-show in 1975 (BBC)

The actor also spoke about examples of Parkinson using his programme for progressive reasons, citing Elton John’s appearance after he was publicly outed as gay.

“Parky invited Elton on to his show so that they could talk about it properly,” Mirren said. “He held out a hand and helped Elton John at a very important moment. So I don’t want to diss Parky.”

In 2019, Mirren looked back on the interview with the former Ghostwatch host during a profile in Flaunt magazine.

She lamented her treatment in the media in the weeks following, explaining: “After that Parkinson interview, I was the one who got the s***. He didn’t. I got the s***. I got the s*** for being argumentative.”

Helen Mirren
Helen Mirren (Gareth Cattermole/Getty Images)

She continued: “I don’t want to diss Michael, but he did blow it that once, because, you know, he didn’t know any different.

“He never saw it. I mentioned it to him again years later and he never saw what was wrong with it. He never could quite grasp it.”

Parkinson, meanwhile, addressed the conversation in 2016 while speaking to the Mail on Sunday, and remained unapologetic.

“I don’t want to [apologise]. Nor does she,” he said. “I don’t regard what happened there as being anything other than good television.”

Join our commenting forum

Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies

Comments

Thank you for registering

Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in